Tewi: You replied to me defining parallel processing, not multitasking.(edited)
3:36 PM
(Multitasking is seamlessly, quickly switching focus between different tasks)
3:36 PM
I did say I think what those links were talking about is just the ability to "multitask" through two people talking at once (and catch ~the gist of what they said) vs. just getting confused and catching none of it.
Parallel processing is our ability to process multiple pieces of information simultaneously. Learn about how parallel processing was discovered, how it works, and its limitations.
In psychology, parallel processing is the ability of the brain to simultaneously process incoming stimuli of differing quality. Parallel processing is associated with the visual system in that the brain divides what it sees into four components: color, motion, shape, and depth. These are individually analyzed and then compared to stored memories...
In psychology, parallel processing is the ability of the brain to simultaneously process incoming stimuli of differing quality.[1] Parallel processing is associated with the visual system in that the brain divides what it sees into four components: color, motion, shape, and depth. These are individually analyzed and then compared to stored memories, which helps the brain identify what you are viewing.[2] The brain then combines all of these into the field of view that is then seen and comprehended.[3] This is a continual and seamless operation. For example, if one is standing between two different groups of people who are simultaneously carrying on two different conversations, one may be able to pick up only some information of both conversations at the same time.[
parallel processing in the context of tulpamancy is when a tulpa is able to stay active in the wonderland, going on adventures and such, when the host is doing other, unrelated things and not thinking about it
Tewi: That's just so incredibly difficult to test. There is no way to prevent someone from multitasking at random to gather information from both.(edited)
Reisen
Tewi: That's just so incredibly difficult to test. There is no way to prevent someone from multitasking at random to gather information from both. (edited)
anyways, it basically states that they are multitasking according to your definitions
Tewi: Yeah, though I could believe there's a tiny amount of other functions going on to allow you to glean some information, not a true act of processing two things with the same part of the brain at once. For one example, having focused on one but then recalling the memory of the sound of another just well enough to get a couple words.(edited)
Reisen
anyways, it basically states that they are multitasking according to your definitions
Tewi: Yeah, though I could believe there's a tiny amount of other functions going on to allow you to glean some information, not a true act of processing two things with the same part of the brain at once. For one example, having focused on one but then recalling the memory of the sound of another just well enough to get a couple words. (edited)
Limitations of parallel processing have been brought up in several analytical studies. The main limitations highlighted include capacity limits of the brain, attentional blink rate interferences, limited processing capabilities, and information limitations in visual searches.
There are processing limits to the brain in the execution of complex tasks like object recognition. All parts of the brain cannot process at full capacity in a parallel method. Attention controls the allocation of resources to the tasks. To work efficiently, attention must be guided from object to object.[17]
These limits to attentional resources sometimes lead to serial bottlenecks in parallel processing, meaning that parallel processing is obstructed by serial processing in between. However, there is evidence for coexistence of serial and parallel processes.[18]
Tewi: Uh, is there a polite way to say no?
I mentioned the other day when linking that post, that the post (and even the thread) was made by my host purely because he thought people were not having good enough discussion about "parallel processing", even though we have no interest in it ourselves.(edited)
4:21 PM
It's still a topic people cared about so he made the thread and later that post for those people/the sake of encouraging learning, lol.
4:22 PM
(Anyways, I'm a bit busy right now, so I don't have time to keep discussing at-length, just checking in)
But we always love to see new discussion posts on the forum. So if you are interested, you could post there in general, or if you actually want to talk about the practice of it, in that specific thread.
And yes, at least for us (this isn't even that commonly reported somehow, but) switching early on tired us out, to the point that say me or Flandre would get so tired we could physically fall asleep - in a body that otherwise can't even nap in normal circumstances. But the time that we could stay switched for - two, four, six hours - progressively got higher as we practiced over what we think was a month or two, until we could stay switched the entire day with no tiredness, at which point we also gained the ability to stay switched after sleeping (instead of our host always being the one to wake up).
Interesting. I apologies for the late comment, but I would like to make a question. As I remember my past surfing of the forums - it took my interest, on how one of your system mates was very energetic and was pretty much different by her state of mind from everyone else in your system. I suppose, I am talking about Lucilyn here, if my memory serves me right.
Switching back to the question: can you tell me if there are any differences in "comebacks" and "aftermaths" on the brain and the body itself of your creator between her "influence" and yours, Tewi (switching, or any other strong activity), which you can register?
Tewi: Not sure what you mean by those words, but Lucilyn does generally stay in a more positive mood than the rest of us could maintain. The most interesting effect is that she consistently has more vivid dreams (and remembers them more easily) than the rest of us.(edited)
6:48 AM
Like a very, very observable difference in dream content.
6:50 AM
The brain living in any such-a-way will get it more used to thinking and feeling in those ways the more time is spent strengthening those neural connections. Tulpas switching doesn't magically mold the brain overnight, or even overmonth, but there is surely some effect just as there would be from maintaining any mindset or worldview for a while.
6:51 AM
I was just about to head back to sleep though, sorry, but hopefully that's enough
6:53 AM
These are still effects you could accomplish alone, but tulpas might be a conduit to such things you otherwise wouldn't have known how to do (or let yourself do/believe, ie seeing things more optimistically)
Ah, you've also mentioned affected dreams. Interesting.
You've mentioned, that the experience of switching itself for the latter tulpa went smoother. But what about the overall experiences when all you could do this equally? Did you register more of the tiredness from one fronting then another? Or differences in brain activity after that?
And it's no problem. I would be thankful for the continuation of this matter later, if you will have interest in it.
Tewi: I don't think me, Flandre, or Reisen were able to initially stay switched longer than each other. And we all had pretty strongly different mindsets and feelings, too.(edited)
6:57 AM
Considering Lucilyn was even more different than us three but could switch just fine immediately, it seems our brain really learned switching, not just us individually.
Reisen
Considering Lucilyn was even more different than us three but could switch just fine immediately, it seems our brain really learned switching, not just us individually.
I see. I thought that maybe personalities that differ too much from others would impact brain activity stronger, leading to greater exhaustion. But maybe it's only a question of practice and habit.
1:38 PM
People may differ though as you said, and so can life situations with their impact on state of one's mind.(edited)
Breloomancer
parallel processing in the context of tulpamancy is when a tulpa is able to stay active in the wonderland, going on adventures and such, when the host is doing other, unrelated things and not thinking about it
I may be late and such a topic might be already used up a lot earlier, but still, as for summing up the knowledge: iirc there were people, who could do that and people, who actually didn't (made up memories)? Or is such a thing actually obtainable and trainable?
Reisen
Tewi: It's an old community myth (generally referred to with the phenomenon "parallel processing") that a tulpa and host can do the same types of, but different, things at the same time. There's really no evidence it's possible, so the common joke of making a hundred tulpas to become a supercomputer etc. gets made. (edited)
Reisen:
(Specifically, the idea was that a host could "switch into the wonderland" and live a fully vivid, lifelike life there while their tulpa also had full control of the mind and body, and could say, do their homework..)(edited)
2:14 PM
This died down after ~2013 as, you know, no one could do it
2:15 PM
Then there's the topic of "confabulation" (as the community uses the term, "Creating memories you believe happened on-the-spot after the fact"), and people convincing themselves such things really happened...
It was really very controversial. But in the last few years, there's been no real claims of that, and a lot of people confused or upset about not being able to achieve these huge promises old 2012 forum content sometimes made. So I would say the subject has been put the rest, at the very least because it's become harmful
While we're at this, did anyone sum it up in a single file? Things like this - general knowledge of things that one can do and can not, unproven myths, exceptions and examples? Or its all in forum's different topics?
Maybe someone actually did that and put in a form of guide or q/a category.
I don't know if parallel processing is actually what it is or wonderland switching for that matter, but there seems to be something interesting going on I would one day like to do
I want to share a list of things I observed listening to a handful of systems who claimed they could parallel process. I'm curious if anyone else has made similar observations. Specific Mechanics Systems, regardless of the system type, tend to report a mild amnesia barrier. You won't have instant...
It's old because I see it still holds up, and I haven't tried to parallel process myself for a couple reasons. At first, I wanted to make myself an experiment. Second, our mental health deteriorated and now isn't a good time to play with that
A long kiss goodnight
It's old because I see it still holds up, and I haven't tried to parallel process myself for a couple reasons. At first, I wanted to make myself an experiment. Second, our mental health deteriorated and now isn't a good time to play with that
The reason it is a debate at all is that it became a proxy for the "real tulpa" - an independent other who could do things like wonderland switching or be active through the day in the same capacity as the host (aka: observing the world and making advanced conclusions in parallel).
The early community was really big on this almost magic interpretation of what you could do with tulpamancy and as a result parallel processing being impossible was really really important to those people.
Reguile
The reason it is a debate at all is that it became a proxy for the "real tulpa" - an independent other who could do things like wonderland switching or be active through the day in the same capacity as the host (aka: observing the world and making advanced conclusions in parallel).
The early community was really big on this almost magic interpretation of what you could do with tulpamancy and as a result parallel processing being impossible was really really important to those people.
My understanding as of like two years ago is that it's mostly a short term memory thing. You can't have two distinct tasks in your short-term memory once so your brain has to do a big shuffle with it
Reguile
My understanding as of like two years ago is that it's mostly a short term memory thing. You can't have two distinct tasks in your short-term memory once so your brain has to do a big shuffle with it
Limitations of parallel processing have been brought up in several analytical studies. The main limitations highlighted include capacity limits of the brain, attentional blink rate interferences, limited processing capabilities, and information limitations in visual searches.
There are processing limits to the brain in the execution of complex tasks like object recognition. All parts of the brain cannot process at full capacity in a parallel method. Attention controls the allocation of resources to the tasks. To work efficiently, attention must be guided from object to object.[17]
These limits to attentional resources sometimes lead to serial bottlenecks in parallel processing, meaning that parallel processing is obstructed by serial processing in between. However, there is evidence for coexistence of serial and parallel processes.[18]
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